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Rob
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I will go no BS.

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Jon
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It's NO BS.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Night_of_the_Living_Dead#Controversy

The film was originally called Night of the Flesh Eaters, and the copyright notice was on that title card, but when it was changed to Night of the Living Dead, it was just accidentally left off. =)

And I thought this was neat:

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wikipedia wrote:
Night of the Living Dead premiered on October 1, 1968 at the Fulton Theater in Pittsburgh. Nationally, it was shown as a Saturday afternoon matinée – as was typical for horror films at the time – and attracted an audience consisting of pre-teens and adolescents. The MPAA film rating system was not in place until November 1968, so even young children were not prohibited from purchasing tickets. Roger Ebert of the Chicago Sun-Times chided theater owners and parents who allowed children access to the film. "I don't think the younger kids really knew what hit them," he said. "They were used to going to movies, sure, and they'd seen some horror movies before, sure, but this was something else." According to Ebert, the film affected the audience immediately:

“The kids in the audience were stunned. There was almost complete silence. The movie had stopped being
delightfully scary about halfway through, and had become unexpectedly terrifying. There was a little girl across the aisle from me, maybe nine years old, who was sitting very still in her seat and crying... It's hard to remember what sort of effect this movie might have had on you when you were six or seven. But try to remember. At that age, kids take the events on the screen seriously, and they identify fiercely with the hero. When the hero is killed, that's not an unhappy ending but a tragic one: Nobody got out alive. It's just over, that's all. ”

Response from Variety after the initial release reflects the outrage generated by Romero's film: "Until the Supreme Court establishes clear-cut guidelines for the (bleep)ography of violence, Night of the Living Dead will serve nicely as an outer-limit definition by example. In [a] mere 90 minutes this horror film (pun intended) casts serious aspersions on the integrity and social responsibility of its Pittsburgh-based makers, distributor Walter Reade, the film industry as a whole and [exhibitors] who book [the picture], as well as raising doubts about the future of the regional cinema movement and about the moral health of film goers who cheerfully opt for this unrelieved orgy of sadism..."

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Next:

In late 1969, Iron Man writer Archie Goodwin decided to kill off Tony Stark. Goodwin felt that Marvel readers couldn't identify with Stark, since he was a super-genius, multimillionaire ladies' man - so he planned to off him and have Iron Man supporting character, SHIELD agent Jasper Sitwell...

...permanently assume the identity of Iron Man. Stan Lee was originally totally on board with this idea, since sales on the title had been declining for months - but by the time Iron Man 28, the issue in which Stark was scheduled to die (at the hands of the Controller)...

...was ready to be drawn, sales of the book had, for whatever reasons, been in a very steep upswing, so Lee nixed the idea, and Iron Man 28 was re-written with Stark surviving.

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I'll call BS here. I know Stan was all about making his characters more real than dc and the whole millionaire playboy hero was very reminiscent of the golden age. And thus it's too easily believed still go the other way.

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BS...

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BS

Rob
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BS.

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Complete and total BS. Crazy

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Marvel Comics' Dazzler...

...was originally conceptualized as the "Disco Queen," had the power to compel people to tell the truth, and was intended to be a cross-promotion with Casablanca Records, and her initial appearance was loosely based on actress Grace Jones.

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Ugh! Disco rears its ugly head once more...decades later. I had hope we'd heard its last thumping reprise with Disco Nightwing...

And I thought Dazzler was intended to ape ABBA & "Dancing Queen." I'm not even sure Grace Jones was an item in the 70s. Assuming that she was, this idea (which sounds like a genuine Stan Lee "creation" to me) seems just ludicrous enough to be true.

What the heck? No BS.

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I assure you that Grace Jones was indeed an item in the 70s.

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I'll take your word for it, Bobbi.

I was still an undergrad and was leading a pretty sheltered life...

...this was back before Freddie Mercury cut all his long hair off, grew that little 'stash, and started strutting around stage in just gold lamé hot pants & suspenders...

...which creeped me out far less than just looking at that picture of Grace Jones does. "Butch" doesn't begin to go far enough...

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Rann wrote:
...which creeped me out far less than just looking at that picture of Grace Jones does. "Butch" doesn't begin to go far enough...

LOL... and that's a tame picture, for her.

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I will call BS on this disco inferno.

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I'll take a stab in the dark and say no BS.

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I'm guessing you're BSing

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I'm not playing, but it's been killing me to not post this possible spoiler, and I'm finally breaking down and posting a link to it. Also maybe not safe for work, depending on your workplace:

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It’s NO BS. =)

Wikipedia has a pretty good summary of Dazzler’s creation:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dazzler#Origins_of_Dazzler

Here’s a 1979 sketch by John Romita, from when she was being called the Disco Queen, had the ability to compel people to tell the truth, and was based on Grace Jones (before Marvel changed her name to Dazzler and changed her powers to her sound-to-light ability, and before the film studio that was working with Marvel and Casablanca Records mandated that her appearance be changed so that she’d resemble Bo Derek):

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Next!

In 1987, George Lucas planned a big-budget, live-action Thundercats movie…

…(which would’ve been written by William Huyck and Gloria Katz, who had written American Graffiti, Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom, and Howard the Duck together, and which very likely would’ve co-starred many of the actors from the original Star Wars trilogy, such as Ian McDiarmid, Billy Dee Williams, Warwick Davis, Kenny Baker, and Peter Mayhew), but Lucas shut it down in favor of producing Willow instead…

…since he really, really wanted to work with Willow's director, Ron Howard - and also since Willow’s projected production budget of $35 million was about $25 million less than Thundercats’ projected production budget.

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I'll say BS because I cringe at imagining any human wearing fuzzy suits back in the 80s.

Please tell me this is BS...please...

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Total BS.

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Yep, total BS. ;b

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Next...

The top-selling albums in the US in 1993 and 1994 were both movie soundtracks: in '93 it was the soundtrack to The Bodyguard, and in '94, The Lion King.

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I say no BS.

Can you feel the love tonight?

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Hakuna matata which means no bs.

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Sad, but probably true...No BS.

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No BS. That’s the only time in the US that soundtracks have been the best-selling albums in consecutive years. =)

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24: Next to last one!

The officially recognized world record for the most expensive pet collection is held by German businessman Janick Schuler. Between his four homes in the US and Germany, as of August 1st, 2012, Herr Schuler owned 167 cats, 147 of which are pedigreed (23 of which are $50,000 Savannah cats), worth an estimate of $3.62 million US (and that figure doesn’t include the salaries of his full-time staff employed to cater to the felines).

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I have no earthly idea...

I've owned cats for over 30 years, but unless Herr Schuler is a cat breeder or the president of the Fresh Step company, I can't imagine anyone actually owning that many cats, even worldwide, much less paying for that many pedigreed cats.

I know a little about the successive breeding of Savannahs. (I like garden variety black toms, myself.) I know there are many associated expenses owning/importing "exotic" breeds, but $50K each seems a bit high to me, even as the planet edges ever closer to hyperinflation.

I'm guessing BS. You are more than capable of fabricating all that convincing window dressing. Puzzled

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I'll fall for it and say no BS.

Rob
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No BS.

But a lot of cat hair.

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I'm calling BS mostly because I don't want to believe cats are worth that much. Funny how if you are rich, this is a collection but if you're poor it's a report to the state authorities.

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It’s…

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BS. I got the name “Janick” from Janick Gers, the name “Schuler” from a Breaking Bad character, and the cat info from Googling “most expensive cats.” =)

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25:

In the mid-70s, Steven Spielberg…

…wanted to direct Superman: The Movie

…and producer Ilya Salkind was on board with the idea. Ilya’s father, producer Alexander Salkind, balked at hiring the relatively-unknown-at-the-time director at the time, though. After Jaws was released in the summer of ’75 and became a huge hit, the Salkinds contacted Spielberg about doing Superman again, but were told that Spielberg wanted to do Superman “singing and dancing, which was really a very polite way of saying [no].”

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No BS

And I still think Chris could have been better suited to play Bruce Wayne than Clark Kent...especially after that disturbing portrayal of the creepy sociopath in Deathtrap. Perhaps a young Clint Eastwood might have been the best Batman of all?

And a young Chuck Connors as Doc Savage? Any takers?

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And Jon...this game has been fun. No BS. Kudos!

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I'll call no BS here. It's a fun idea. Imagine if he'd done it though and how that would have changed the landscape of comics films.

I'd thought about throwing the game to keep from being looked at to run the next round because there's no way I could pull it off 1/10th as well as you Jon. But then I have just been guessing about half the time anyway so I probably couldn't have thrown it. Some excellent questions and amazingly creative fabrications.

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I'll take a guess of no BS.
This has been a fun and informative game, thanks for running it!
(The trick will be trying to recall the real facts and not some of the BS ones later on.)

Rob
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No BS phone home.

-Rob

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Yep, that’s NO BS. =)

Bonus trivia: Sylvester Stallone lobbied hard for the part of Clark Kent/Superman, and Marlon Brando played a key role in him not landing the part (which Stallone wasn’t too happy about).

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Thanks for playing, and I’m glad it was enjoyable. If anyone wants to take over, go right ahead (though be warned – sometimes I’d spend a good ten minutes carefully crafting a lie, just to nix it ‘cause I didn’t like something minor about it). XD

I’ll run something else, something different, soon. Probably a “What the Heck is That?” thread, where I’ll post a pic of something odd and you all get to ask a combined total of 20 yes/no questions to try to peg down exactly what it is (first person to five points will win). But possibly something different, I'll think it over throughout the next few weeks. =)

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